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Written on: 09 January 2010 [02:34]
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lwalth
 registered since: 09.01.2010
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I am here because I believe in the electric car, I think that we should be trying to put as many of them on the street as we can. I know there will always be a place for the gas car, but the time for the electric has come. We need to get off middle east oil. We need to stop sending exhaust into the air. We need to be better at taking care of the world we live in and make what we do easier on the earth. that leads me to the thing that is stopping the electric car and that is the battery. The biggest thing for the Electric car is the Batteries. If we can develop great batteries at a cost that is not going to make the car out of reach then the electric car will not only survive but will grow like a great tree. Branching out and touching everyone lives and making the world greener with every gas car we can get off the streets. I know that we can have green power from the wind,solar,Hydro,Pump storage, and Nuke's. These all produce green power that we can use to charge up our Electric cars. But again we need to have a great battery that will hold charges a long time and deliver it with out the over heating that the older batteries have been having. I know that the present battery are not friendly to land fills, and that too is a problem, unless they find a way to recycle the battery. that to me is the correct answer, a good battery that does not overheat, hold a long steady charge and can be recharged many, many times. then when they are wore out can be recycled again to make new batteries. then the electric car will be a going venture. lwalth http://electricdemise.blogspot.com Lee A Walth
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Written on: 09 January 2010 [02:38]
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lwalth
registered since: 09.01.2010
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lwalth wrote: I am here because I believe in the electric car, I think that we should be trying to put as many of them on the street as we can. I know there will always be a place for the gas car, but the time for the electric has come. We need to get off middle east oil. We need to stop sending exhaust into the air. We need to be better at taking care of the world we live in and make what we do easier on the earth. That leads me to the thing that is stopping the electric car and that is the battery. If we can develop great batteries at a cost that is not going to make the car out of reach then the electric car will not only survive but will grow like a great tree. Branching out and touching everyone lives and making the world greener with every gas car we can get off the streets. I know that we can have green power from the wind,solar,Hydro,Pump storage, and Nuke's. These all produce green power that we can use to charge up our Electric cars. But again we need to have a great battery that will hold charges a long time and deliver it with out the over heating that the older batteries have been having. I know that the present battery are not friendly to land fills, and that too is a problem, unless they find a way to recycle the battery. that to me is the correct answer, a good battery that does not overheat, hold a long steady charge and can be recharged many, many times. then when they are wore out can be recycled again to make new batteries. then the electric car will be a going venture. lwalth http://electricdemise.blogspot.com Lee A Walth
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Written on: 09 January 2010 [03:51]
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lwalth
registered since: 09.01.2010
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Hello, I am new to your site, but I love electric cars. Lee A Walth
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Written on: 09 January 2010 [03:59]
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wsparhawk
registered since: 09.01.2010
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Hello: I'm Bill Sparhawk from Spokane, WA, USA. My friend, Lee Walth and I have started a Blog advocating for the manufacture and use of the electric car and hybrid vehicles. Hope to be able to add to the discussions here and learn a lot from the members. Thanks, Bill William Sparhawk
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Written on: 09 January 2010 [13:17]
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ecoadmin
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registered since: 20.07.2007
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lwalth wrote: I know that the present battery are not friendly to land fills, and that too is a problem, unless they find a way to recycle the battery. that to me is the correct answer, a good battery that does not overheat, hold a long steady charge and can be recharged many, many times. then when they are wore out can be recycled again to make new batteries. then the electric car will be a going venture. Hi Lee & Bill, Thanks for joining our forum and good luck with your site. I would like to make a comment to your statement above. Batteries do not belong to the landfill. A way to recycle batteries is not something that has to be invented. The technology is already here for years and practised in many countries. Batteries that do not overheat when charged are reality as well. I own an EV and I can assure you that a modern lithium battery warms up only little when recharged. NiCd batteries had a very different behaviour and they warmed up releatively easily during recharging. But thats (battery)history. My lithium battery also holds a long steady charge. The self discharge rate is very low, it's not a problem anymore to go on a vacation and leave your car parked for e.g. three weeks. Although there is no long term experience wth lithium batteries, you can recharge them many times. I have a guarantee for 1500 cycles or 3 years on the battery and if I calculate 50 miles for each charge, that equals to 75'000 miles. Not a bad number if you consider that this the minimum you can expect. So to sum it all up: The EV is a going venture and we can happily delete the 'will be' in your statement  Cheers, Stefan Twike 890
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Written on: 05 May 2012 [01:14]
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gregsfc
registered since: 05.05.2012
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I'm probably not your typical new member; if there is such a thing. I've only recently been interested in an electric solution for my next source of personal transportation. I'm currently driving an '06 Jetta TDI (diesel). I'm getting 46 mpg on an average tank year around with average wear on my tires and use biodiesel blends when available. My range is almost 700 miles. Diesel fuel is currently $.20 more than gas but is usually $.35 more. Not a big deal when you're getting 53% better fuel economy than the same car with a gas motor. To most people, the kind of fuel economy I get in my diesel is great and it is good considering it weighs 3200 lbs and has 177 peak foot lbs of torque, but what I see is a lot of wasted car just to get me to work and back and there is far greater potential for efficiency with a smaller, lighter vehicle, with smaller and lighter wheels and tires. Diesel technology is far better than anything with spark plugs in it for efficiency, but even with current and upcoming diesel choices in America, we're going to be seeing 3,000 plus curb weight cars and trucks with nothing smaller than a 2.0 liter. Every gas car choice that is smaller and lighter than my car is either low tech (think Chevy Aveo) and therefore does not get any better fuel economy than a gas compact car; or small gas cars are micro in nature and carry a premium price with no real premium technologies for saving fuel. Moreover, after experiencing the efficiency of a diesel, I don't think I could go back to spark-ignition power with poor low-end torque and the high RPM needed to get torque. I'm not a fan of hybrid cars, because, as a concept moving forward, it doesn't make sense to engineer cars that use two fuel tanks; two fuels; and two kinds of motors working at the same time (parallel) just to save gas, when you're going to be using gas anyway. And, as stated above, all current hybrids have that dreaded spark-ignition engine with it's low efficiency included in it's package. This leads to an electrical solution. What fascinates me most is this mpg-e rating for electrics. Until I looked into it closely, I did not realize how efficient electric vehicles are. I've sort of hit a stand still, however, for an electrical solution for my next ride. The only car I see that is not over kill for one person (like what I have now), but that could possibly meet my range and speed needs, is the Mitsubishi i, but it seems you get so much less for not that much less money compared to the Leaf and the new Focus EV. This leads to a second solution (a part-time solution). I could choose an electric motorcycle, scooter, trike, moped, electric bike, etc. that could be ridden during periods of good weather, but a part-time solution must be practical to get me 56 miles round trip daily on state highways, and seeing as this would be only a part-time solution and I would have to keep my car, must be much cheaper than a full time electric solution. From what I've found so far, the part time solutions are very expensive, and the lower I look down the chain, the more ridiculous it gets. I'm not adverse to riding something relatively slowly and something that requires great physical effort, but an electric bicycle that claims to go up to 40 mph and with a twenty mile range, with a battery life of only a few hundred charges costs $4,200. The range would leave me unassisted for about eight miles each way, and I'd need a new battery every six months. Comparatively, an electric motorcycle that can go 60 miles at over 60 mph at over 200 mpg-e sells for a much more reasonable $11,000 and is good for a couple of thousand charges. This then leads me back to an electric car, which is too expensive and may not have enough range long-term for round-trip commutes as the battery declines, but provides much more value and practicality than the part time choices, but then again, with an electric car I'd be driving too much car and back to square one. I've been google searching trying to find practical solutions for personal transportation. I know there must be more out there, like that picture of a trike on your website. Here is what I've found that's worth considering. Please forgive any misspellings: Motorcycle Zero Motorcycle Brammo Nissan Leaf Ford Focus EV I searched 3 wheeler and trike but couldn't find any three-wheel covered vehicles that could feasibly be used as a full time vehicle. All I found were concepts or European-sold vehicles with hefty price tags. I've not yet searched electric scooters. I once owned a Honda Elite 80 gas scooter. It didn't deliver the consistent speeds I was promised and was not very practical on the highway. An electric scooter would need to be more in the speed/power range of a 125 cc, since it is a motorized vehicle and I could not drive it on the shoulder. Any feedback, suggestions, questions; please reply. |
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