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"Citysax" from Citysax Mobility GmbH
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Written on: 13 October 2009 [16:11]
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Franko30
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Hi there, Just a short new entry, as I'm writing this on my phone in a waiting room: In Germany there's the new Citysax Mobility GmbH that converts Chevrolet's "Matiz" model to electric. I'm going to get their first "commercially" converted car in 2 weeks. Have been driving it several times (and they actually used my input for finetuning the software, motor etc.). It's really fun driving this car, like in the old Rolls Royce ads: You CAN hear your watch ticking.  Technical data: 4 seats, 3-phase AC motor with 16 kW longterm and 26 kW shortterm, Liithium Iron Phosphate batteries (83 V, 13 kWh), 980 kg weight (without passengers), range 80-120 km per charge (depending on terrain, driving style etc.), 120 km/h top speed. Unfortunately, their website is (still) German only: http://www.citysax.de See also: http://elweb.info/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=citysax Cheers Franko30 [This article was edited 1 times, at last 13.10.2009 at 16:31.] Mitsubishi i-MiEV + Citysax 002, davor/formerly Twike 808 and 891
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Written on: 15 October 2009 [08:33]
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Yardonn
 
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You did not state one or two important detail: price (base car and conversion including tax): apporox 40.000 € ~ 60.000 $ Weight: approx. one ton I understand the idea, price of the base car is much lower than price of a twike (without batteries). I know that this is what can be done today from a small manufacturer (and i hope the best for CitySax), but the CitySax is simply to heavy and to expensive to be considered a very good solution. Sure i would prefer to drive a citysax instead of a regular car, but seeing the price there is no chance to preplace our car with a citysax. Even if i wand to, i simply don't have that much money to spend on a car. Alleweder 4
http://www.akkurad.com allmost full weather protection for one person at 0 - 1.5 kWh / 100 km CityEl as secondary E-Car |
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Written on: 24 November 2009 [06:09]
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georgepines05
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I've heard of this citysax from my relatives in Europe. I'm considering the price also and might visit Germany in a few months to check this conversion. |
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Written on: 18 March 2010 [15:09]
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Franko30
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Hi Yardonn, Yardonn wrote: You did not state one or two important detail: Weight: approx. one ton (...) but the Citysax is simply to heavy and to expensive to be considered a very good solution. Well, I don't know if - today - you can find a four-seater on the market that is a lot lighter! Remember: It's a conversion. This was a combustion-engine car before it was converted. Even the TWIKE (which is as lightweight as it gets) weighs 330 kg - 3 wheels and two seats... And as much as I like my Twike for myself. With my kids I wouldn't want to miss certain safety features like good brakes, a good (metal) cage construction, Airbags, ABS etc. Yardonn wrote: Sure i would prefer to drive a citysax instead of a regular car, but seeing the price there is no chance to replace our car with a citysax. Even if i wand to, i simply don't have that much money to spend on a car. Well - and still there's people buying the TWIKEs. And I know several people with very little money who just did the math (compared to a combustion engine car) and decided to lease a Twike or finance it with a loan (like a lot of OTHER people do with useless BMW cabriolets or other "sports cars"). And, all in all: At the moment the Citysax is the only 4-seater electric car available on the German market faster than 60 km/h that can actually be bought as a new car with guarantee etc. So, I'd say it's demand and availability that defines the price. I wanted a 4-seater electric car and I wanted it at once and not in 2 years. Cheers Franko30 [This article was edited 3 times, at last 18.03.2010 at 15:33.] Mitsubishi i-MiEV + Citysax 002, davor/formerly Twike 808 and 891
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Written on: 18 March 2010 [15:46]
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Franko30
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georgepines05 wrote: I've heard of this citysax from my relatives in Europe. I'm considering the price also and might visit Germany in a few months to check this conversion. Hi George, I've been driving my "Citysax 002" (001 is the manufacturer's car) since November now (about 5000 km). And I'm really pleased. Especially since it has battery insulation & heating (unlike other electric vehicles e.g. the Twike & the Tazzari Zero). This means that even at minus 20 degrees Celsius without a garage to park in, the batteries don't drop below 10 ° C or so, making its range quite reliable in winter. Depending on where you stay in Germany it might be nearer to my place than to Dresden. You can test drive the car at my place, too. Just PM me when and where you stay in Germany. Cheers Franko30 Mitsubishi i-MiEV + Citysax 002, davor/formerly Twike 808 and 891
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