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Electric Car from Hong Kong
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Written on: 23 January 2009 [13:07]
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ecoadmin
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registered since: 20.07.2007
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Hong Kong is well known for its air pollution and I always wondered why the city has not yet adopted the idea of driving electric. But on the other hand it must be said that most HK citizens do not drive a car but use the very efficient MTR (Subway) system, busses or taxis. A lot of air pollution in this mega city is also caused by the many factories and coal power plants in the Shenzen area in Southern China. But also in Hong Kong the awareness of the problem has risen and there is some activity to promote electric cars. The company EuAuto Technology is starting to sell their first model 'myCar' and it should also be available in the UK in January 2009 for a selling price of GBP 9000. Without having checked the car specs, it seems that the vehicle will be ideal for city driving and could be a competitor to the G-Wiz. More about the company and the car can be found on their website: http://www.euauto.com.hk Cheers Drive safely and clean Stefan ecocarforum.com - Green Car Network
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Written on: 29 June 2009 [12:01]
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andrewmoquin
registered since: 29.06.2009
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Without doing any research, I suspect that the 100 miles on a single charge is a sales pitch and far from reality. Through the 100 mile threshold is worthy goal and would seem achievable, at some point in the future. Mitsubshi gets an Honorable Mention in the Baimbridge Opinion Pole... The price is a secondary drawback and I agree with the above. The price is going to have to come down if the general public is going to take an interest. Only the elite few will spend that kind of money for an electric car as a novelty to show off. Mom and pop will be looking for something other than an appeal to their ecological sensibility. “Great works are performed, not by strength, but by perseverance.”
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Written on: 30 June 2009 [11:25]
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Yardonn
registered since: 22.08.2007
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When i read the data, i can only 726 kg for a 2-Seater. Is it build out of Lead? Yes, infact it is, approx. 10 kWh in Lead are quite heavy and therfore require more material for car construction. At least you do net get the idea to transport much, 200 kg load are quickly used up only by driver and passenger... Range ist honestly said to be on flat road. Montains should not be a problem, almost no one will really try this with a tonne weight and less than 4 kW. A standart CityEl will perform like a racecar against the leadbrick. Don't missunderstand me, i don't want a racecar, but i would like to be able stay above 20 mph on montain-roads. Charging 8-10 hours. Better not be to spontanious. Of course this can be driven. Of Course it is better than to use a full burner for one or two persons. But when i compare it to a twike i can only cry. It costs 1/3 of a twike, but it gives you much less. If you calculate without batteries, it does even cost more than half a twike. When i see all the restrains of the Mobile,i can only drive it, if you not really need a car. But the bad technologie they produce today makes it easy for´me. When I have the need of a 2-Seater, i will drive twike. Today I can build an Twike-Akku for realistic 200 km range. With that a twike would realy fullfill almost all my transportation desires (not needs, rather "luxurie" desires). But as long as my wife drives only fuel-burners, the projekt "megarange twike" is economical sensless for me. Alleweder 4
http://www.akkurad.com allmost full weather protection for one person at 0 - 1.5 kWh / 100 km CityEl as secondary E-Car |
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Written on: 15 July 2009 [03:47]
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childress
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registered since: 14.08.2007
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andrewmoquin wrote: Though the 100 mile threshold is worthy goal It is not a worthy goal for an EV, it is quite pointless. It is marketing hype! If we take the "open roads of the United States" as the holy grail (because we're one of the top private vehicle driving societies in the world), then we find a couple of interesting facts: * Most American households own between 2 and 3 vehicles (normally a car, a minivan and maybe a motorcycle) * that 80% of the US population drives 50 miles or less a day (50% drive 25 miles or less) * that many of these trips are made in single occupancy vehicles (SOV's) and many more are two-occupancy (the vehicle CAN carry more people, we just don't). * that in an hour or two, most EV's in quick charge mode can reach 80% of charge (ie, like when you're going to the local mall shopping) * that most EV's can gain a full charge in 8 hours (like while you're sitting on your butt at work, your EV is snacking) So, synthesizing these facts, you find a 1-2 seat EV capable of going 30-40 miles on a charge could satisfy the daily needs of 80% of the US population. Something like, hmmm... a Twike? Need more range/speed/seating? Drive one of your two other vehicles, hopefully a plug-in electric with a (bio)diesel generator. And this is why I think the Automotive X prize is pure rubbish. 100 mph and 100 mile range for an eco-vehicle is pointless and encourages faulty thinking sold to us by automobile manufacturers. A far laudable goal than 100 miles on a charge would be to get the weight and cost of battery packs (or Fuel Cell tech) down, and durability/ruggedness up. Small deeds done are better than large deeds planned (Peter Marshall) and dirty deeds done dirt cheap are the best (AC/DC -- my favorite music to listen to in Der Twike) Commute suck? Twike it; You'll like it!
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