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Miles Electric Confirms


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Written on: 21 September 2008 [19:39]
Lensman
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registered since: 31.05.2008
Posts: 75
Check out Miles Electric's website, which now includes images of the Chinese-built Hafei Saibao. This is to be the basis for Miles' XS500, a pure EV highway-capable mid-sized sedan, with an advertised range of 120+ miles, which they hope to start selling in Europe in 2009, and in the USA in 2010, for a price around USD $35,000-$40,000.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g194/Lensman03/HafeiSaibaocropped.jpg

No "punishment car" here!
Written on: 23 September 2008 [22:27]
ecoadmin
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registered since: 20.07.2007
Posts: 585
I wonder whether the XS500 will be completely built in China...or is it maybe in a similar way assembled like the Tesla Roadster...? Anyone knows?

It certainly seems to be a competitive alternative to other developments offering similar size, range and usability.

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Written on: 25 September 2008 [02:09]
childress
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registered since: 14.08.2007
Posts: 140
Hmm... charge times for a fast mode? Will it get me 120 miles per charge AT highway speeds (65-75mph) loaded with a full family? Doubt it.

If you can get me 80% charge over a long lunch (1.5-2 hours) and the above, then it becomes a viable 'out of city' car. Otherwise I still want a plug-in biodiesel hybrid that'll do at least 20 miles on batteries only at in-town speeds for my 2nd car... and by second car, I mean this car plus Twike for in-town driving for a family of 4.

M@

Commute suck? Twike it; You'll like it!
http://www.uiuc.edu/goto/twike
Written on: 25 September 2008 [18:58]
Lensman
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registered since: 31.05.2008
Posts: 75
Advertised mileage isn't likely to be a good indicator of real-world mileage. In his blog, Martin Eberhard says he gets about 125 real-world miles from his Tesla Roadster, which is EPA rated at 225 miles. (With the scheduled upgrade to replace the faulty transmission, which includes an upgrade to the electronics, the Roadster is supposed to get about 10% more range... 245 miles, which theoretically should translate to a real-world range of about 138 miles.)

And obviously it depends on your driving style. As with a gasser, if you drive with a "lead foot", with quick starts at high speeds, you'll run out of electricity (or gas) much faster than if you drive at moderate speeds and accelerate gently. Eberhard lives in a mountainous area; people who live where it's flat might get more mileage.

One issue with most rechargeable batteries is that fully charging and discharging them wears them out much faster. Thus the "normal" charging mode for the Tesla Roadster only charges the batteries to 85% capacity, and restricts the discharge to a lower limit also. That's one reason why Eberhard only gets 125 miles. On the "extended driving" mode, which wears out the batteries faster, he said he could get 160 miles. But do read about it for yourself in recent posts to his blog:

http://www.teslafounders.com/

See "Roadster Impressions" in the "General" category.

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Written on: 14 April 2009 [18:08]
Lensman
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registered since: 31.05.2008
Posts: 75
Another Tesla Roadster owner claims she gets 200 miles per charge, altho I'm guessing that's using the "extended range" option which fully charges and discharges the battery, resulting in considerably shorter battery life. And at an estimated $22,500 for a new battery pack, that's not recommended! By contrast, Eberhard says he gets 160 miles with the extended range.

But remember, the Tesla Roadster is a high-performance sports car. How many people are going to buy it and drive it like your Grandma does? The Tesla Roadster isn't a very good example of the sort of EV most of us can ever hope to own. Or maybe even *want* to own. But that and the Th!nk Electric, which is or recently was being sold in Britain, are the only two mass-produced fully electric highway-capable vehicles on the market at this time.



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